Hi, I'm Kym Tolson, and I'm the traveling therapist. It's my passion to teach therapists how to navigate online private practices and multiple income streams so they can travel the world. I'm a digital nomad. With a virtual insurance based private therapy practice and a multi six figure coaching business. I'm obsessed with entrepreneurship and developing tools that can help therapists live an adventurous lifestyle. In this podcast, I will discuss my journey as a digital nomad. I'll chat with other traveling therapists and help you navigate the complexities of running an online insurance based practice. I'm so glad to have you with me on this journey.
130. Boundless Horizons: Embracing the Freedom of Solo Travel with Dr. Aimee Harris
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In this episode of The Traveling Therapist, I sit down with Dr. Aimee Harris, who has brilliantly woven her passion for travel into her professional life as a telehealth therapist. Aimee shares her journey from a traditional therapy setting to embracing a nomadic lifestyle, powered by the flexibility of telehealth. She recounts the initial challenges and profound benefits of solo travel, describing how it has strengthened her independence and broadened her professional and personal perspectives. Aimee also delves into the integration of her work with her role at her wellness center, highlighting the holistic approach to health that she promotes. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of mental health practice and the freedom offered by a nomadic lifestyle.
Key Points:
Transition to Telehealth: Dr. Aimee Harris discusses her seamless shift to a fully virtual practice during COVID-19, enhancing her work-life balance and enabling her global travels.
Solo Travel Insights: She shares the empowering experiences of solo travel, highlighting how it fosters independence and connects her with fellow travelers around the world.
Wellness and Professional Integration: Aimee elaborates on how integrating telehealth has allowed her to manage a wellness center remotely, providing a holistic approach to client care.
About Dr. Aimee Harris:
Dr. Harris has always been intrigued by travel. Her first international trip was to Germany to visit her son in the military. After doing much research on the benefits of health and travel, she began her very first solo trip on her birthday to Paris, France in 2022. She continued travels to Italy through the 13 scenic towns of the Amalfi Coast ending with a car ride to Rome! In 2023 she traveled to Ireland, where she enjoyed the flexibility of working remote; traveling to the Cliffs of Moher, Kinsale and Dublin during the day and working at night with clients. Honolulu Hawaii during Christmas gave a new love for warm air, culture and blue waters. She will be in Greece during the podcast traveling to five iconic islands including the famous island where Mamma Mia was filmed! Dr. Harris is the CEO of Ie Wellness Center and Wellness Retreats, is an industrial organizational psychologist, licensed professional counselor and play therapist who specializes in the core eight dimensions of wellness. She believes that the key to youth and vitality are to never stop playing. Traveling has been shown to enhance all eight dimensions of wellness (I can explain more)! You can find her at www.iewellnesscenter.com, (804) 904-9731 and @Ie Wellness Center on Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. Snapchat iewellnesscnter. Also Facebook at Wellness Retreats. She is just starting a sister company, Wellness Retreats which will focus on wellness through travel, including retreats, continuing education, and workshops.
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SPEAKER_02
There are so many scientific studies and research on the benefits of travel. In fact, traveling helps decrease your mortality. People that don't take vacations, especially women, have a higher rate of mortality. Actually, death. Yes, it helps. Yes, it helps with emotional because you really need, I don't know about you because you do this quite frequently too. You um really need that time away to help you reconnect with yourself and also nature.
SPEAKER_01
Hi, I'm Kim Tolson and I'm the traveling therapist. My passion is teach therapists how to navigate online private practices and multiple income streams so they can travel the world. I'm a digital nomad with a virtual insurance-based private therapy practice and a multi-six-figure coaching business. I'm obsessed with entrepreneurship and developing tools that can help therapists live an adventurous lifestyle. In this podcast, I will discuss my journey as a digital nomad. I'll chat with other traveling therapists, and help you navigate the complexities of running an online insurance-based practice. I'm so glad to have you with me on this journey. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Traveling Therapist Podcast. I'm really excited to have Amy Harris here with us today. Amy, I was reading her bio before I logged in with her, and she's been everywhere on my bucket list. So I'm super excited to talk about that. But also just welcome Amy and I really want to talk about your journey and the lessons that you've learned along the way. But I always start out with the question: how'd you go from being a traditional therapist to a traveling therapist?
SPEAKER_02
So I think it started with my undergraduate. I've always been fascinated by people and that sociology, the study of people. And I think what led me to traveling therapists was really after COVID. And I I know in some of your other podcasts you talk about this transition from realizing that you no longer have to work in the office eight to 10 hours a day, and that during COVID, I I started my own practice, and that allowed me to really be virtual. And then the sky was not the limit. It was like, wow, we can do this pretty much anywhere. You can go and have that flexibility. So COVID really opened up the door for being able to travel more.
SPEAKER_01
Ah, I love that so much. Yes. Hated COVID, but loved what it did for us, really. Yes, it did. Yes. Oh my goodness. So tell us about your journey. I I know in the bio you talk a little bit about your first like big solo trip by yourself and doing that. I'd love to talk about that because we I've had a couple guests on here that are just straight up solo digital nomads. And to me, that's always seemed so brave, adventurous. And I don't even know if I could do that by myself. I'd like it to have my partner that can come with me, but I would love to just talk about that and how you get the ball rolling with that and just your adventures and everything. Just tell us everything that you've been doing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02
Of course. So it really started at, I don't want to tell age, but it started at a decade. A decade change, right? And I was getting tired of most of my friends either were married and they could go solo or they couldn't go with me, or maybe financially they couldn't afford to travel. So I was tired of going to the same place every summer. Like you go to the certain beach every summer, you go to the mountains every summer. So for that decade birthday, I decided that I was going to venture into solo traveling. And my first yes, and my first destination was, of course, Paris, because I think a lot of people love Paris, but I absolutely have always loved Paris and wanted to go. So that started the journey solo traveling. And boy, was it like you said, terrifying and exhilarating at the very same time. Not knowing the language, not knowing what I was in for, but taking that journey because, like I said, I was just, I wanted something new and I needed to feel something different for that birthday to go from a different decade. It's pretty big. And so that's where it started in Paris.
SPEAKER_01
Oh my gosh. Oh, I love that. I've never been in Paris. I've always wanted to go. Oh, you will love it.
SPEAKER_02
And yeah, and that's where it started. And from there, I've just been doing solo for every of my birthdays. There haven't been many since Paris, but several. Every year I decide that on my birthday, I'm going to go somewhere different in solo travel.
SPEAKER_01
Amazing. Oh my gosh. How does it feel like? Now does it just feel like so easy by yourself?
SPEAKER_02
Or is it still you get that nervous kind of I think it's, I wouldn't say it's easy because it takes a lot of planning and there's a lot of bumps in the way. But what it does do is give you this sense of empowerment and independence that you didn't really know you had within you. And that's what is so freeing and exhilarating is knowing that you do have what it takes to solo travel. What I find is people are super friendly. People are super friendly, they're super friendly. And what I would encourage everyone to do is listen less to what people say. They'll give you their opinion before you go somewhere that place may not be friendly or go with just go, not expecting and then you run into other solo travelers, other women, other therapists. And it just people are super friendly out there. And I felt I've always felt safe where I've traveled so far. Yeah, I love that so much.
SPEAKER_01
I'll never forget we did an episode. My name is Julie Rose, and she was in Mexico by herself. Drive, she drove from the tip to the tip of Mexico by herself, like on those roads through Mexico in a rental car. I was like, girl, you are so great. She's it's all about attitude, and I've taken that with me. It really is. It's like mindsets, mindset work, really, with a lot of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, faking it's because you make it like you say, going out looking like you're confident, you're not the typical traveler. And like you said, it's all it's really about mindset.
SPEAKER_01
It really is. I love that so much. Oh my gosh. Before we hit record, we were chit-chatting a little bit and we were talking about some of the health benefits that you've discovered. I don't know if it's from research or just your own anecdotal like personal experience, but health benefits of travel, and I thought it'd be cool to talk about that. Just touch on some of those that you've discovered. Yes.
SPEAKER_02
I uh a few years ago did a podcast with Girls Guide to the World. Um now it's it was Girls Guide to Paris, but now it's girls' guides to the world. And we talked a lot about the wellness benefits of travel. And a lot of people don't realize that. A lot of people accumulate their vacation time and whether they get money for that, or they don't really uh take their a lot of people that I see, especially executives, do not take their vacation time, or they work when they're on vacation. And there's so many scientific studies and research on the benefits of travel. In fact, traveling helps decrease your mortality. People that don't take vacation, especially women, have a higher rate of mortality, of actually death. Yes, it helps. Yes, it helps with emotional because you really need, I don't know about you because you do this quite frequently too. You um really need that time away and it helps you reconnect with yourself and also nature. So it helps with mortality, with heart health, with your decreasing mental illness, depression, anxiety. It helps with uh environmental and intellectual wellness because it challenges your brain in other ways that we're than we're used to. Yeah. So there's so many benefits of health and wellness for travel. In fact, I did a blog about a year or two ago about the benefits of travel.
SPEAKER_01
Amazing. Oh, good. I hope if we don't have it, maybe you could send it to me. We could put it in the show. Sure for people. Sure, I would love it. I'd love to do that. Because that's something I talk about all the time on this podcast. I am guilty of working, obviously, because I travel every day. I'm in a new like every week, every couple weeks, we're in a new place. So I do work while I'm traveling and I'm guilty of not taking enough time. But we talk about it on this podcast all the time, like trying to find that balance, even if you're doing what I'm doing of have boundaries around how much you're gonna work. So you can be in these places and take in like the nature and the scenery and just all these new places. And it's so exhilarating and exciting for me. Every time I get to a new place, it's like I can't wait to explore it. It's just so much fun for me.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, it it's like you said, having the boundaries, but how neat is if you think about it, to be able to go, like when I was in Greece recently, explore for the day, like you probably do, and then you come back and work, and then you get the best of both worlds. You get to not only see something new, but then at nighttime, that's when I don't know if that's works out with you, where you used to work at night, and then you just go to sleep and you wake up and do the same thing and explore a different area. And you basically are getting paid because you're working, so you're getting paid, you're getting paid to go see a new place. How exciting!
SPEAKER_01
Oh my gosh. Oh, I love hearing you say talk about Greece too. I'm getting ready to go there in October and I'm so excited just to go. And I've never been to Greece, so I'm really excited. Where are you going? Might have to pick your brain. My friend Megan Gunnell, she runs the Thriving Therapist Facebook group. I don't know if you're in that group, but she or her husband's a chef and they host these culinary tours. So they're doing a culinary tour on Crete for five days, where it's like sick after basically, they cook you breakfast, lunch. We go to the winery and cooking classes, and it's just like an immersive no. They have space if you're interested.
SPEAKER_02
Yes, I know of that site. I'm friends with her. I had no idea they were doing a uh something in Crete.
SPEAKER_01
Yes, it's October uh the week I'm going. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Yeah, exciting, you're gonna love it.
SPEAKER_02
I was in Crete. I was in Crete. That was my favorite. That was my favorite because it's so spread out that you can travel. Peros is smaller, but Crete is so many exciting little cities in between and the landscape. Oh, oh you're it's divine, and the food. So excited.
SPEAKER_01
Oh, I can't wait. I'm so excited. We're looking up like getting off track. Yeah, you should. I'll send you the link. Oh my gosh, because I know she has two spaces left. So oh my god. Yeah, anyway, yeah, I'm really excited about that because I love to eat and I love going to new places. So the best of both worlds. And I think we'll share this on in the wine. Yeah, there's a beautiful winery, and one of the the hosts there is she was the editor of wine and something magazine. Like she was the editor of wine magazine, and she knows everything about Greece and the wine on Crete, and it's just gonna be she's like a sawmiller or whatever. I can't say that word, but yes. It's so wonderful. We're like, I'm like, hey, let's log Megan's thing. This is so exciting. Because she does these twice a year in different places around the world, so they're so amazing. Oh yes. So really excited about that, and now I've totally gotten off track, so I'm just talking about my life. I can tell you some of the places I've visited.
SPEAKER_02
Like I said, I just started this journey two years ago.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. I would I would love to just even catch up and pick your brain because we're trying to figure out we have like three days after Crete, so we're trying to I'm taking my mom, which I'm really excited about. I've shared it on the podcast before. With this life I'm living with multiple income streams, I was able to afford like the business class flights, and I'm taking her on this culinary tour, and it's just it's a dream come true, really, to be able to take my mom. I never thought I'd be able to do something like that. It's happened, and it just makes me really happy to be able to do that for her, but totally don't. That's the one that's getting emotional.
SPEAKER_02
I have uh speaking of that, I have a friend. Uh she's on my team, she's a financial advisor, Mary Kay Hacker, and she's currently in Greece, and she took her mother. She took her mother, and they're gonna recreate the whole Mamma Mia, the whole Mama Mia movie sky, Sky Pillows, several uh I'm sorry if I say it wrong, but all of the islands that were filmed in Mamma Mia. And I'm so excited that she could take her mother and that you're gonna take your mother to Greece.
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Yes.
SPEAKER_02
And it'll be cooler when you go. It'll be cooler in October.
SPEAKER_01
Yes. Yeah, I'm hoping it's gonna be like perfect weather. So anyway, I'm so excited. But all that to say, it's just what an amazing life to be able to just go. And I just love hearing that you're doing that too, and you could just pick up and work. I know we're talking about boundaries and not working, but I think even reading your bio, it sounded like you were working with time zones and trying to see clients in the evenings while you were over in Europe. So I just think it's fantastic.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah. I I don't think it can get better than that. Like you said, you just have to set the boundaries that you're not gonna work past a certain amount of time, or like you said, that during the day you're going to be doing this. And I do agree with you that being telehealth, you do have to really set boundaries with clients as far as them texting or emailing. And and that is one thing that you really have to be careful of. Setting your time that you can go work out and have exercise and have a well-balanced life. Because so many people do get overworked with telehealth. They could like you. I think I heard on one of your podcasts seeing 30 to so many people a week. You really need the time for self-care and also uh other dimensions of wellness, like getting out in the environment, being social, and having other aspects of wellness to focus on.
SPEAKER_01
So exactly. It's it's a struggle for real. It's so easy for a client to say, gosh, I need a session, and it's I'm not really doing anything right now. I guess I could hop on, but then it's you're just there's no boundaries there.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, and that's easy to do because of our profession. We really want to help. And it's like you said, it's very it takes a lot of effort to set the boundaries, but it overall helps with our overall wellness, and it's very important.
SPEAKER_01
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SPEAKER_02
So there were many nights that say I would go exploring in Greece eight, 8 a.m. to say 6 p.m. And then I would work from 6 to uh sometimes midnight. So I would adjust to their schedules because they really didn't notice a difference. They might ask me, oh, what where are you? No, because they could tell I might be outside of my patio and and it was a different environment. But also what's really neat when you work at night, I could see this the the sunset increase. Oh, when you're outside, of course, in a confidential uh area, and it couldn't get better than hearing ocean and you're seeing the sunset, but you're also working with quiet. Oh, I love that so much.
SPEAKER_01
Oh, I just love that. Yeah, it's tough, it's tough sometimes. Like what like when we work in uh sometimes we're down like in Miami in those high-rise condos, we get Airbnbs there, and you've got this beautiful ocean view. Sometimes it's really hard to be sitting there working. I don't know if you experienced that. But I have to see four clients, yeah.
SPEAKER_02
It's so hard. Like you said, especially when it's still daylight. Yeah. And you want to you see, like when I was in Ice State Santa Serena for five days, and you can see the cruise ships or yachts passing as you're as you're outside and you're like, I want to be there.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. It's tough to stay focused in beautiful places. Yeah. It it does take a level of self-discipline, I think, to be able to work and travel at the same time. It it's learned it's a learning experience every day, and I've been doing it for quite some time now. It's every day I'm learning something new about myself and balance and self-care and just all that, you know?
SPEAKER_02
And I don't know about you, but the more you do it, the I'm already planning my next birthday. I want to go to Boston. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh, how cool would that be? Yeah. So it can be very, it's I don't want to say addicting, but that's a uh it's very uh exciting because as soon as I get back, I'm like, okay, where am I where are we going next? Like where am I going next? Yeah. Are you like that too?
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I was just my mother and I, mother-in-law and I were just walking on the beach like less than an hour ago, and I was talking to her about this very thing because it's I was like, it's not like you get addicted, but it is in a little bit of a way because if we're in a place for more than three weeks, we're like, okay, we're ready. Let's go. We're done with this one, let's go to the next one. It's like it's I don't know what it is, but it we definitely get desensitized, I guess, to being in the same place for too long. We're just ready to go to the next place. So we're always, it's always that okay. Like right now, we're only booked, we're only booked through August 9th right now. We don't even know where we're gonna be, but it's like the search is on. Okay, we gotta find the next perfect spot, that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah. And may I just say, I my personality, you don't know me, you're just getting to know me. I'm very much planned, structured, detail, of course, with PhDs. And you know, in our career, we have to, as a therapist, be that way. But what I love about traveling is I do the opposite. I'm just you're saying, like, I might stay one place, and a night before I'm looking at an Airbnb, like, where am I going next? Yes. And it's so freeing because there is structure. It's just let's go into uh where I really like to go is where other tourists aren't. Yeah. I might just happen to be at a restaurant that I have no idea what it's like. Yeah. And it's just so freeing that you can try different places without having a plan for everything.
SPEAKER_01
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02
I went to Greece. I when I went to Greece, I did uh ferry hopping, island hopping. So I went to Santa and then I stayed there for a week. I went to Crete for five days, and then I went to Paros, and then I went to anti-paros. And island hopping is so fun too because you're just like, let's just get on the ferry and just see where we end up, what restaurant, what people we meet. Yeah. And I met so many women. I just had people women come up and talk to me, invite me to dinner.
SPEAKER_01
It's just unbelievable. That's beautiful. Yeah. That's that's amazing. I love that so much. That's who I want to be, like this carefree, just like hot from this place to this place. And pretty much I am, except for the stress of like running multiple income streams. Other than that, I'm pretty free. So I just love hearing you say that.
SPEAKER_02
Yes, and I I do have an executive coach, and he's trying to help you with. It was funny, he said, maybe if you had more employees to do your sessions, then you could be in the Greek and you wouldn't have to work, trying, like you said, to increase those revenue streams where you also have more flexibility to help to have employees that help you uh also uh see people and help their mental health while you're doing other aspects of traveling as well.
SPEAKER_01
Exactly. Yeah, trying to scale up and less one-to-one and more passive income coming in is the ultimate goal, I feel yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02
And when you see the yacht passes and you're in Greece and I'm remembering what he said, I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_01
He's right, like, let's build these revenue streams, right? Exactly. Yeah, I want to be the one on the yacht. I do uh guilt guilty pleasure. I watch below deck. I don't know if you ever watched that, but guilty pleasure. No! It's like a reality show. Like the the crew is it shows the crew like doing the the private yachts and the people on the yachts and the meals and all that stuff. So I have a dream one day of maybe doing a a private yacht, you know, but who knows?
SPEAKER_02
Oh, that would be perfect. What I did tell you is since being a traveling therapist, I've started, which a lot of women it looks like are doing is started a sister company, which is wellness retreat. So we can start doing the hosting retreats. And I want to host my next one in Greece. Like you're going to. So that's my goal is to start, yes, to start doing retreats because I find like we were talking about so many women are either skeptical about solo travel or they're scared, or there's some limitations. So getting a group together where they can travel solo but then meet women and have the ability to travel solo but also meet other women, I think it is really where I I want to be in the future.
SPEAKER_01
Yes. Oh, I love that. That's amazing. Yeah, there's such a movement now with retreats. I like in the traveling therapist Facebook group, every day somebody's got a retreat they're doing, and people just are really craving that, I think, right now, these international retreats. That's amazing. Yeah. We didn't talk much about that, but what kind of work do you do? And if people wanted to connect with you, how would they find you to see everything that you're doing? Let's talk about that a little bit for the listeners.
SPEAKER_02
Sure. So about a year ago, I started a wellness center in Williamsburg. We were talking about that, Virginia. Yeah. And just a little bit about our company, we actually specialize in the eight dimensions of wellness. So we not only specialize with mental health, but we really want to integrate all dimensions of wellness with the Who, with the World Health Organization, they believe of the eight dimensions. So we specialize in financial wellness, emotional wellness, social, environmental, intellectual, physical. And we have this business in Williamsburg. And the goal is for team members to connect in the various dimensions and really have a one-stop wellness center where someone can come and receive counseling, but then also receive a facial for stress management or physical wellness, meditation yoga. So to say all that, I am at IEWellnesscenter.com and that stands for individual and employee wellness. I also specialize I have an IO psychology uh doctorate, and we really focus on workplace wellness and leadership and productivity improvement. So we want to really integrate all aspects because the World Health Organization really sees wellness as an integration of all aspects and that emotional is not disconnected from physical or vice versa. So I'm in Williamsburg. They could reach me that way. They could reach me at info at ie wellnesscenter.com. They could reach me at my phone number, 804-904-9731, and on social media at IE Wellness Center.
SPEAKER_01
I love that. Yes. Oh my gosh. So is this an outpatient center or is it like people come and stay? Like for is it like a facility, like a 28-day facility kind of thing if someone wants to get their life together, or is it more like local Williamsburg people that are coming for outpatient services? That's so interesting.
SPEAKER_02
I thank you for clarifying. So we do have an outpatient services center, but I also we also, of course, do telehealth so we can see anyone in the state of Virginia. So we not only have the Williamsburg office, but then on the remote where, for example, our financial advisor could do consultations via uh Telelink. So we offer the Telelink services too. We're gonna be doing yoga via online. So a lot we really want to access individuals. In some cases, we can see in other states, like my financial advisor can see people all through throughout the U.S. Of course, with therapy, we we only can practice in the state of Virginia, but there are some team members that have the ability to see someone in Texas, a health and wellness coach. I'm getting ready to hire. So lots of exciting team members.
SPEAKER_01
Amazing. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like an amazing resource for people. And being licensed in Virginia, it's good for me to know about it to be able to refer people there. So I'm glad to learn about it. Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you for sharing. I just love hearing about your adventures and the solo travel and this wellness center. That's I think about like when I started private practice, I always had a vision like that of it being like super integrated. Not just let's do a little talk therapy, but having lots of facets like that for people because I know that's that whole person kind of vision. Like all of these pieces need to be functioning for you to feel like a whole complete functioning person in a lot of ways. I love that.
SPEAKER_02
What a good content. And can I also thank you because I found you I you're super popular, you popped up, but so many of my solo traveling friends or women have followed other people that you're connected with. So I just wanted to thank you for offering these wonderful resources and podcasts for women, and that you've also touched my life and also my friends. So I want to thank you for doing that.
SPEAKER_01
That is so sweet. Thank you for saying that. Oh my gosh, that really hurts my heart. Oh it makes it all worth it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02
It does. It really does.
SPEAKER_01
Thank you. That's so sweet. It makes me a little teary out. I don't know why. I'm a little emotional today, but anyway, I appreciate that. Thank you so much. And I look forward to sharing this with our listeners. And we'll put everything in the show notes so you guys can follow Amy, meet her, talk with her if you want to. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02
You're welcome.
SPEAKER_01
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